tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post7462786037217701798..comments2022-03-27T20:28:51.613-04:00Comments on I Am Veggie-Mightee!: Fat Vegans: Why We MatterKaseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02514826925652944960noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-57969526618781497282012-04-02T16:33:46.559-04:002012-04-02T16:33:46.559-04:00GREAT post! I too, am one of those "happy wit...GREAT post! I too, am one of those "happy with how I am" people, I'm not "ashamed" at all, ever. <br />BUT - I am un-amused, disgusted, irritated and out of patience with the well meaning friends, acquaintances, strangers and members of my family who continue to try and push their agenda and stereotypes on me.Tofu Mom (AKA Tofu-n-Sprouts)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16536769929670412138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-4267486236435962702012-04-01T00:01:06.617-04:002012-04-01T00:01:06.617-04:00You make an excellent point, Eric. Honestly, as a ...You make an excellent point, Eric. Honestly, as a fat woman, I'm so inured to the bias that sometimes I lose that perspective. It's insidious. <br /><br />Fantastic blog post, btw. Thanks for sharing it, and for linking back to me. I'm going to link to your post on my Twitter and Facebook - that needs to be read!Kaseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514826925652944960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-49322051878687298612012-03-31T18:26:34.681-04:002012-03-31T18:26:34.681-04:00"Why…do we not…win the fight against obesity?..."Why…do we not…win the fight against obesity? Because fear and shame are <i>paralyzing</i> feelings, not <i>empowering</i> ones."<br /><br />Very well said! Fat-shaming is indeed not the way to go, especially if you're trying to do activism. but I think it goes deeper than this.<br /><br />It is not only practical to avoid fat-shaming in order to win a cause, but it is also morally obligatory. Shaming someone for their fat is no different than shaming someone for their sexual preference or the color of their skin. It is morally outrageous to call out an oppressed group, regardless of what ethical cause you might be fighting for.<br /><br />As much as I want the cause of veganism to spread far and wide, I would be loathe to only achieve it through demonizing an entire segment of society. As I point out in <a href="http://www.ericherboso.org/2012/03/insidiousness-of-fat-shaming-vegans.html" rel="nofollow">my blog entry on the topic</a>, it sickens me that PCRM put out this ad, not just because it does no one any good, but also because it is morally impermissible.Eric Herbosohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07888413471076959781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-46664234327014527642012-03-30T20:09:10.574-04:002012-03-30T20:09:10.574-04:00Thank you for the kind comment!Thank you for the kind comment!Kaseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514826925652944960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-7362293399896203932012-03-30T20:08:45.229-04:002012-03-30T20:08:45.229-04:00I'm so happy for you! Really, that's so lo...I'm so happy for you! Really, that's so lovely. I know there is that third category of people who simply love and accept their bodies, but you have to admit, that's a vast minority. I'm glad to hear you're among them. :)Kaseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514826925652944960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-18600563391373868652012-03-30T19:46:01.332-04:002012-03-30T19:46:01.332-04:00Thank you for pointing everything I've been th...Thank you for pointing everything I've been thinking so eloquently into words!KellyChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11162107579321509443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-25273563174556266882012-03-30T17:54:29.518-04:002012-03-30T17:54:29.518-04:00I agree with everything you say except for,
&quo...I agree with everything you say except for, <br /><br />"Virtually every person in this country falls into one of two categories:<br />1. those who live in fear of being fat<br />2. those who are ashamed because they are fat."<br /><br />Since I changed my diet to vegan and started eating real food I no longer live in fear of being fat. Having changed my diet for going on 7 years now , my weight has stayed the same, except for a few vanity pounds that go up and down depending on the weather. I feel liberated and love that I can move on to more important things.myvegancookbookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05436576247079568118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-78439154435030247762012-03-30T11:45:31.823-04:002012-03-30T11:45:31.823-04:00Thank you, MeShell. I agree - I've always had ...Thank you, MeShell. I agree - I've always had great respect for PCRM until these recent campaigns. That's what makes it so disappointing. I feel like they're losing credibility, which hurts all of us who are promoting veganism.Kaseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514826925652944960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-24454370707868392882012-03-30T11:43:56.192-04:002012-03-30T11:43:56.192-04:00Thank you for commenting, Elizabeth. It's so r...Thank you for commenting, Elizabeth. It's so reassuring to know that there are health professionals who oppose this campaign.Kaseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514826925652944960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-30351103797209503452012-03-30T11:10:26.728-04:002012-03-30T11:10:26.728-04:00I was so disappointed when I learned of this campa...I was so disappointed when I learned of this campaign. I think there is enough fat stigma in this society. I would have expected so much better from the PCRM. I've respected a lot of their points and with the exceptions of their sensationalist campaigns.<br /><br />Excellent points.MeShellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06769400213706835002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-15596158599409121852012-03-30T06:57:24.838-04:002012-03-30T06:57:24.838-04:00I am 100% ashamed of and hate the new ad campaign ...I am 100% ashamed of and hate the new ad campaign by PCRA. People may choose a vegan diet for one of a million reasons. people come in all different shapes and sizes and just because we're vegan doesn't mean we're a size zero blonde. GRRRRR As a health professional I hate to see this weight stigma so prevalent in our society and even in our medical community. Hoping to change that one post, and one client at a time!Elizabeth Jarrardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11282015760292904799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-9292306640727403862012-03-29T15:39:26.866-04:002012-03-29T15:39:26.866-04:00I'm vastly over-generalizing, I know, because ...I'm vastly over-generalizing, I know, because self-acceptance is a continuum. But I do think people fall into those two categories more often than not.Kaseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514826925652944960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683377924130527821.post-42650112733086536672012-03-28T21:34:10.768-04:002012-03-28T21:34:10.768-04:00I disagree in that there's two categories of p...I disagree in that there's two categories of people. There's actually a small third category: Those of us who are comfortable in our fat but are harassed for being as we are. (I've been "moo-ed at in a clothing store while looking for underthings. We were not amused.)Gisellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368136397155949819noreply@blogger.com